Joined: Tue Mar 20 2007, 09:42AM Location: birkenhead Posts: 45
Hi Chaz, i did not know such a race existed but will try and find out more. could not do anything about it until November anyway as i am concentrating on the 'unseaworthy freak' world championships in Marseille later this year
Well sorry guys, the Cup was won this year for the first time by an Italian boat! too late, but on the other hand that gives up a whole year to get a boat built measured and worked up. Perhaps If I blow the dust off mine and finish it.............
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. Seriously Bob and I went to Baye D'Etang in the region of Nevers a few years ago to pick up a couple of boats. Of course we tried them as well and all I can say is WOW!! The weight of a Highlander and three times the sail area - need I say more? And of course the week of sailing is wonderfully French style. Racing from 10 to 12, twohours for a magnificent lunch, lots of wine and chat, racing from 2 to about 4.30, back to base for a rest and to get changed and then dinner with lots of wine, excellent food and chat. Repeat as necessary. Life just doesnt get better than that.Incidental
ly Richard Magous, the sec or chairman of AIVMAC lives around Marseill
es so you should try him first Graham. Cant remember if he speaks English well or not.
Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 09:04PM Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 26
Graham, Try http://
perso.wanadoo.f
r/aivmac and follow links to translate also try AltaVista - Babel Fish Translator, paste wordage and copy. I'm currently in contact with Roger Bicheron of the French organisation by email. From what I can understand, the America's Cup RC yachts have to be built from scratch. I am also attempting to secure a hull maker and authentic measurer. If we Brits are gonna do this, we need to do this properly. I'm sure the British Team for the America's Cup Challenge Team will do their best to secure a long awaited success for UK, but we could show them the way! NIMSS [/html]
Dont need to go abroad to get measured. I am certain that David Chivers would be acceptable to the French as he, like me, is an accredited measurer for the Int Metre classes. I did ask them once before and they were hapy with him.
Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 09:04PM Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 26
...and for those who don't know,....there are those within the REAL America's Cup challenge...are trying to get the rules changed from the current yacht size of 70ft to yachts are about 90 feet (27.41m).
It's a pity, because the last America's Cup Challenge was very exciting and spectacular with a lot of close racing.
And of course the RC AC yacht hull will obviously change from 2435mm to 2741mm and likely to have larger sail area...!
Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 09:04PM Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 26
...but it would appear, according to French sources. there is no immediate plans to change the hull and rig of the RC America's Cup Model Yacht, but we will see after 6-7 October 2007.....
Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 09:04PM Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 26
The Nautical Company of Geneva (SNG) is happy to announce that less than three weeks after the victory of Alinghi against Emirates TEAM New Zealand in the 32e America' S Cup, two other teams joined the Challenger of Record, Club Nautico Espanol de Vela, to defy Alinghi in the 33ème America' S Cup. Last week, the team Sud-Africaine TEAM Shosholoza (Royal Yacht Club Wraps) was accepted like challenger. Monday, it was with the turn of TEAMORIGIN (Royal Thames Yacht Club), to mean the return of the United Kingdom with the America' S Cup.
“We are pleased to see these teams launching their challenge”, declared Fred Meyer, Vice-Commodore SNG. “They will bring much to the competition for the 33e America' S Cup and will contribute to make this forthcoming edition an event even more important than the 32e edition”. This good news occurs after the disappointing reaction of the Golden delicious Gate Yacht Club (GGYC), represented by BMW Oracle Racing and Larry Ellison, who challenges the validity of the CNEV before the Supreme Court of New York.
“After two consecutive failures to become Challenger in a normal way, i.e. via a competition, at the time of the 31e and 32e America' S Cup”, Fred Meyer continues, “the GGYC now seems to devote all its energy to be disturbed and harm America' S Cup while trying to ensure an exclusive match for the trophy. The GGYC wants to take the event as an hostage by requiring a match-race deprived on catamarans, but the SNG will never negotiate with the GGYC in such circumstances and as an administrator of the Cut, we will ardently push back the attempts of the GGYC aiming disturbing and at harming America' S Cup”. More surprising is indeed that the GGYC requires to face Defender in a match-race exclusive on catamarans of 90 feet, on July 4, 2008. There would be thus neither pre-regattas, nor eliminatory series of the challengers. The Swiss Yacht Club supports the validity of the challenge of the CNEV, Challenger of Record and cannot take into account any other Challenger of Record without going against the terms of Deed of Gift. The SNG rejected thus the challenge of the GGYC, BMW Oracle Racing, and hopes that this last will give up its inadmissible action to join the other challengers who will take part in the 33e America' S Cup under the terms of Protocol to which the event is subjected. Everyone, including the GGYC, recognized the success of the 32e America' S Cup.
By developing the event in Europe and offering regattas enthralling and very disputed to a public and televiewers increasingly more, America' S Cup clearly was essential like an international sporting test. As opposed to what its representatives claim, the action of the GGYC returns America' S Cup at the time of the litigations and the lack of sportivity, which had marked the event at the end of the Eighties. After the immense success of the first edition of America' S Cup in Europe since 1851, the Nautical Company of Geneva is delighted by a even more beautiful 33e America' S Cup implying of the high level challengers coming from the whole world and which lets foresee the promise of brilliant future for the sporting regatta.
Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 09:04PM Location: Maidstone, Kent Posts: 26
From: "TEAMORIGIN" To: NIMSS
Subject: TEAMORIGIN - Court case holds up TEAMORIGIN America`s Cup challenge Date: 23 November 2007 11:32 TEAMORIGIN's ambitions held up by court case Britain's America's Cup challenge affected as next event is potentially postponed for at least 12 months Today, America's Cup Management (ACM), the America's Cup event organising authority, has announced that the 33rd America's Cup, originally scheduled for 2009, will be postponed to a later date. ACM cited the uncertainty surrounding the ongoing court case between San Francisco's Golden Gate Yacht Club (GGYC) and the defending Société Nautique de Genève (SNG) as the reason for the delay. The case, brought by the American team in July of this year, questions the legitimacy of the Club Náutico Español de Vela (CNEV), a new Spanish club that became the signatory of the Protocol for the 33rd America's Cup and Challenger of Record (COR) following the Swiss team's victory in the previous event. The GGYC, a past COR, offered to drop the case in return for several significant changes to elements of the event's rules, structure and format. Initially seen as a headache, the situation has grown over the following months into 'a wall across the road' for all entities trying to prepare for the next event.
At the same time as TEAMORIGIN and the four other bone fide challengers participated in a consultative process with the Defender and ACM on the Competition and Event Regulations and the new AC90 Class Rule - the exciting new and larger class of boat proposed for the 33rd America's Cup - the five have also been actively mediating between the two litigating parties.
"Last week we came to within a hair's breadth of a solution that should have been acceptable to both. Unfortunately the tactics employed by the two have sometimes brought into question the willingness of both to want to find a solution at all," said Mike Sanderson, TEAMORIGIN's Team Director. With this uncertainty hanging over the America's Cup the teams and the organisation would be unable to finalise commercial and logistical arrangements for 2009 had that date been kept. This now necessary delay is required to ensure that the next competition will be an event of the highest standards and standing possible, something that is expected of the America's Cup. "This is a really sad day for the America's Cup and a bad day for sport," said said Sir Keith Mills, TEAMORIGIN's Team Principal. "Disputes like this should not be resolved in a Court of Law. For one team to seek to impose its will on a sporting event by using a lawsuit is reprehensible. For another team to slow the process down is equally damning. The full rejection of the offer from the GGYC to the SNG made last week meant that any chance of an 'out of court settlement' appeared to have gone. "We can only all hope that common sense will prevail and that over the following days the parties will come to their senses and realise that the offer on the table is a good one for all concerned. If that was to pass then we could all get on with making our respective arrangements for an event in Valencia in either 2010 or 2011. If that doesn't happen we can only surmise that the greed of one side is only matched by the belligerence of the other." Without that common sense, however, the future of the 33rd America's Cup lies in the hands of the man who presides over the court case, Judge Herman Cahn. It has now been five weeks since his court in New York heard the case and he is expected to hand down his decision on the validity of the CNEV in a matter of days. Depending on the outcome several different scenarios will emerge, all affecting TEAMORIGIN's plans for the future to a greater or lesser extent. "TEAMORIGIN is as committed to winning the America's Cup now as ever however with so much uncertainty as to the dates, venue, rules etc., it is difficult for any of the teams to move forward with their plans," continued Sir Keith. "It is also important to remember that until Justice Cahn finds in favour of the GGYC TEAMORIGIN is a Challenger for the 33rd America's Cup. However, should he find for the GGYC and the SNG adopt their stated position of accepting the GGYC's Deed of Gift challenge then the validity of the current Protocol will cease and the status of TEAMORIGIN as a Challenger for the 33rd America's Cup will also end. In that case TEAMORIGIN will have to calculate the implications for the event and the team and make its plans accordingly," concluded Sanderson.
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